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Focke-Wulf Fw 190D camouflage & markings, Part II

Cover previewThe content of Part II follows the outline of Part I, with rules and detailed descriptions of colour patterns applied to Fw 190D-9s and D-13s built by the type’s licence manufacturers, i.e., the Arbeitsgemeinschaft Weserflug (Arb. Roland), Mimetall Erfurt and Fieseler Kassel. Separate chapters are dedicated to the influence of repair work on the final appearance of aircraft, and the comparison of different Doras in single units at a specific time.
There is also a “bonus” chapter of a slightly different form, dealing with the detailed analysis of the development of the Fw 190D with Daimler-Benz DB 603 engines, including the Fw 190D-14 and D-15.
The book is fully documented with extracts from original documents, black & white, and colour photographs, as well as numerous colour schemes and colour profiles. It is completed with a comprehensive loss list of the entire Arbeitsgemeinschaft Weserflug, Mimetall Erfurt and Fieseler Kassel production.
Highly recommended for all students of WW II aerial warfare, Fw 190 fans, and modellers.

Discussion forumFocke-Wulf Fw 190D camouflage & markings, Part II

17. 12. 2007, 17:58
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PART III
from: Lapiduch
Z druhého dílu Fw-190 D jsem se dozvěděl,že bude i III.díl.Nevíte prosím,kdy?
21. 12. 2007, 22:28
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Re: PART III
from: Tomáš Poruba   to: Lapiduch
Dobrý den,

jako vždy se budeme snažit vydat třetí díl co nejdříve. Ale práce a v některých tématech i výzkum, teprve probíhají, takže příští rok (2008) to určitě nebude.
Nechceme publikovat nějaké neuvážené teorie a navíc se už v tématu o zbarvování dostáváme do poměrně složitých detailů. To vše potřebuje čas na ověření a dokumenty musíme shánět (nebo za nimi jezdit) po celém světě.
Snad ale bude delší čekání vynahrazeno detailnějšími informacemi o dalších aspektech zbarvování a s tím souvisejících tématech. Samozřejmě, přibudou i nové Fw 190D...
Prosíme o trpělivost.

Tomáš Poruba
15. 7. 2009, 12:44
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Re:Re: PART III
from: Lipan1   to: Tomáš Poruba
Dobrý den,
chtěl bych se zeptat jestli 3.díl(Fw-190D) vyjde letos a jak to vypadá s vydáním "červené"publikace na Me-262,která je avizovaná na pololetí t.r. ?
24. 11. 2011, 15:41
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Re:Re: PART III
from: Gary BATES (UK)   to: Tomáš Poruba
Hi there!

I`m impatient I know, but is there any light at the end of the tunnel as to a release date for part III?

Its over 4 years now since part II. I understand delays due to the sad demise of your friend and co-worker, may he RIP, like I said, I`m pretty impatient!!

TY!!!
21. 7. 2010, 10:24
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Re: PART III
from: Mike   to: Lapiduch
Hello Tomas! hope all is well. Just wanted to ask if there is any update, or guess when Volume III may see daylight? thanks for any help. Mike.
24. 11. 2011, 15:40
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Re:Re: PART III
from: Gary BATES (UK)   to: Mike
Hi there!

I`m impatient I know, but is there any light at the end of the tunnel as to a release date for part III?

Its over 4 years now since part II. I understand delays due to the sad demise of your friend and co-worker, may he RIP, like I said, I`m pretty impatient!!

TY!!!
26. 11. 2011, 12:11
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Re:Re:Re: PART III
from: Tomáš Poruba   to: Gary BATES (UK)
Dear Gary and Mike,

I apologize for a delay of my (our) replay about a work on Part III of our study about Camouflage and Marking of Fw 190D. I understand, it is a long time of work on it. But I can assure you about a work on the topic and our intention of issue the work.
Please, understand, we are working on other topics in a same time and, for example, now we are finishing a study about Me 262 production and final operations of Ar 234 over Czech lands in 1945. The project will be finished in a beginning of the next year.
We didn´t stop work on Fw 190D and the Part III will arisen. We are using to verify as more as possible information and facts and we don´t want to present any "wild" or unrealistic theories. All of this costs time.
We undestand, you would like to keep the title in your hands as soon as possible ( and we are glad from the interest, of course !), but please, be patient yet.
We hope, other our titles will shorten waiting to the Part III of Fw 190D title.

Warmest regards

Tomáš Poruba
30. 11. 2011, 15:25
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Re: … Re: PART III
from: Gary BATES (UK)   to: Tomáš Poruba
Thank you, Tomas, for the update!

I have patience and look forward to the book, whenever it appears!!!!

TY!!

Gary.
10. 12. 2011, 17:28
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Re: … Re: PART III
from: Maciej   to: Tomáš Poruba
Dear Tomáš,

that's a wonderful news.
Will this be the study announced in one of the photo captions on p.146 of "Me 262 of KG and KG(J) units"?
Will it cover the camouflage aspects in regard to each manufacturer?
Can you give a possible date of publishing that book?

Best regards,
Maciej
11. 12. 2011, 21:47
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Re: … Re: PART III
from: Tomáš Poruba   to: Maciej
Dear Maciej,

yes, it will be the study noted in the note on page 146 of the "KG and KG(J)" study. It will focus to a production of Me 262 on our territory (in FWE - recon - and LBB - fighter - factories), include all aspects. Of course, chapters about camouflages of the Me 262s will be there too.
A separate part about final operations of Ar 234 in our lands will be enclosed too.
As usual, several concrete aircrafts (Me 262s, Ar 234s) will be describe in detail there.
My colleague is prepareing a note about the title to our Internet pages.
I suppose an issue in a beginning of the next year, because the study is finished. Now we are in a "checking" phase, specially checking of texts and their translation.

Regards

Tomáš
31. 1. 2012, 0:19
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Re: … Re: PART III
from: mark   to: Maciej
Indeed, this is splendid news. Have been looking forward to the release of Fw -190D, C & M vol. III with great anticipation. Hope it will include the chapter and detailed study of Fw-190D W.Nr. 21003 of Oblt. Hans Dortenmann.
Again, congratulations on the fine work
6. 4. 2012, 18:38
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Re: … Re: PART III
from: Gary Bates   to: mark
This waiting for Part III of FW190D C&M is horrible!!!!

Need to read soonest!!!!

Keep up the good work!!!!
15. 5. 2013, 17:36
Re: … Re: PART III
from: Gary Bates   to: Gary Bates
Another year gone, another year without Vol. III

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20. 5. 2013, 1:32
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Re: … Re: PART III
from: Dan   to: Gary Bates
I know Gary - I keep checking back here every month or so myself (especially as Japo 'Teased Us' at the end of Vol. II with an image of proposed cover for Vol. III).

So, any news? Any updates? Any details on what we can expect and when?

Im particularly interested in the Paints that you guys found in Czech (thought to be from the Bf 109 Diana line, correct?) and whether Vol. III will contain more information/paint chips on all colours possibly used on the Fw 190D.

However, thanks so much for Vol. I and Vol. II :)

Dan
4. 3. 2014, 6:30
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Re: … Re: PART III
from: Gary Bates   to: Dan
Still no word on Vol III???????

My other 2 vols are getting lonely!!
3. 4. 2014, 21:58
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Re: … Re: PART III
from: Mark Shanks   to: Gary Bates
So are mine. :-(
7. 4. 2014, 14:21
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Re: … Re: PART III
from: Gary Bates   to: Mark Shanks
Need input on release date for vol III, as I need info on the D-11 and D-13 as well as dream db 603 engine versions planned for late on in 44-45 by Kurt Tank and his engineers.

Another year without vol III has gone by!!

The wait is horrible!!!
27. 3. 2015, 18:53
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Re: … Re: PART III
from: Wolfgang OLLIG   to: Gary Bates
Hi Folks! Have a look at the tab 'Other Projects'! It seems that Vol. III may indeed eventually see the light of the day - this is graet News!!!
19. 7. 2015, 17:58
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Re: … Re: PART III
from: PeJu   to: Wolfgang OLLIG
Ahoj,
môžeme sa tešiť na tretí diel už tento rok?
Čo takto do vianoc?
12. 9. 2015, 20:55
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Re: … Re: PART III
from: Dan Bell   to: Wolfgang OLLIG
Yes, but WHEN?

There are two titles listed that I will definately be giving Japo my money for; Obviously Focke-Wulf Fw 190D - camouflage & markings, Part III, and Messerschmitt Bf 109s of I./EKG(J)... But they are simply listed in Other Projects - NOT Forthcoming Titles (like Luftwaffe Pilot Training in Czech Area 1939–45).

I know I am like the rest of the rest of us, both grateful for Part I/Part II, yet impatient for Part III... But I am trying to save my excitment for when Focke-Wulf Fw 190D - camouflage & markings, Part III shows up in the Forthcoming Titles area.

It would be a WONDERFUL Christmas Present however ;)


Dan
Newcastle - Australia
19. 4. 2016, 15:56
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Re: … Re: PART III
from: Dan Bell   to: Dan Bell
Any news, updates, thoughts? maybe the odd picture or profile to excite us? :)


Dan
Newcastle - Australia
25. 9. 2017, 20:14
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Re: … Re: PART III
from: Gary Bates   to: Dan Bell
It is coming to the end of 2017 and still no real info about FW190D part lll, forthcoming title, estimates of when. ANY NEWS is better than none, which is what is happening for way too long!
A tentative approximate date would be great.
This book is worth the wait, especially as I got l & ll as soon as possible upon their release, but it is taking ages!
More news please!!!!!!!
13. 7. 2019, 13:30
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Re: … Re: PART III
from: Jiri Hainy   to: Gary Bates
Dear friends
I would like to answer the question: When will you publish the 3rd part “Fw 190D camouflage and markings”, or never publish? I need to know if I keep waiting or I can already die as a result of old age. Thank you for answer.
Best regards Jiri Hainy

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